Shop for Flush Mount Ceiling Lights and the best in modern furniture. On another note we had a great 5 day trip. That was a 2006, so out of date, but might want to check on the 2017 4 Runner. The Honda Pilot also has about 80 hp more than 2002 4runner v6. Cheers — Jan. Hey guys we just pulled home a new to us Jayco Jayfeather 23b. This text is machine-read, and may contain errors. .We hiked 2 times, saw Elk,deer, black bear and big horn sheep. ENJOY! I have really appreciated this blog and ALL the comments. Enjoy, do your own research and don’t necessarily trust a dealer – they want to sell you a trailer and two different dealers told us we could tow up to 6000 # with our 4 Runner which was clearly untrue. I’m nervous having friends tell me that’s too much trailer. Was looking at Retro trailers, they’re not great, but low cost. 🙂 Cheers — Jan, I have a 2005 4Runner, V8. Se have a 14 Pathfinder 3.5 w factory equipped tow setup inc electric brake setup. I’d still think seriously about a trailer in the 3000-3500 lb dry weight range, for a 4 Runner if the 4 Runner is rated at 5,000 lbs. Agree. But we did it and had nothing bad happen in 10,000 miles … were we just lucky? The other downside, in our opinion, is the necessity to “put it up” or “take it out” every time you reach a new campsite. It’s all well & good until it isn’t and this is a good example of what can happen. All input would be appreciated. 5,000 lb towing weight. Or should I have an additional transmission cooler installed at a reputable place? My wife and I are currently shopping for both a car AND a trailer. href=”http://www.amazon.com/JR-Products-2912-Towing-Mirror/dp/B0095TC6I6/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?ie=UTF8&pi=SL75&qid=1370089832&ref_=mp_s_a_1_8&sr=8-8″ target=”_blank”>, Thanks! The new diesels are reported by owners to do better, but I couldn’t talk David into replacing our 4 Runner with a GMC Canyon or Chevy Colorado diesel. Hope you can help me with an answer…By the way, it’s a V6, 4×2…. I was able to maintain 65-70mph on the interstate at about 2800-3800RPM’s In order to get up the steeper hills I did shift down to 3rd and had to go about 50-55 mph. Enjoy! Last year we bought a 2015 Jayco Baja 15ft foot and it proved to be too small for me. We had no problems with I-40 between Flagstaff and eastern Oklahoma. Safe Travels & HAVE FUN Brenda! (4000rpm) I had a Pro Series V-5 Rated (10,000Lbs) WDH put on with a Tekonsha Prodigy-P2 breaking system put in as well, which I keep at 7.0 and “Boost-3” settings. The modifications to the Toyota that add to the stability of the package are a Hensley Arrow hitch and Firestone air bags. Interesting that Toyota is rating the Highlander at a 5000 lb tow capacity and the new 4 Runner at only 4700 … this may deserve a phone call to Toyota for an explanation… I don’t get it. I did read the other two articles you’ve posted re: towing with a 4Runner. dry wight Jayco Feather. I sent an email to Toyota’s Corporate Office & haven’t heard back from them so,tomorrow, I’ll try calling them with the VIN and hopefully I get an answer. We use it a lot for skiing and it has been up/down/over many steep mountain passes. I will install a transmission cooler and will fill the rear differential with Amsoil 75W-110 GL5 hypoid oil. Your load doesn’t seem to be centered correctly. We then traded in the 4 Runner for Jeep Grand Cherokee Diesel. No monster trucks. And if you’re not already a Lifetime Member, for $25 one time, you’ll have access to lots more information on the owners forum. The one I am looking at now is a Starcraft Launch Mini 19BHS. And don’t forget tires on the trailer! The worst cars and trucks there is. 4200 empty, amost 6000 loaded. This is one of the grandest places that I have every had the privillage to list for sale. We have now purchased a 2017 Tundra crew max and are getting it ready for our next adventure. When I was looking for this information, Toyota Customer Service came the closest to providing me with real data, but it’s been so long ago, I don’t remember. You’ll get some experience driving in the Blue Ridge – we drove to the N. Georgia Mountains the first week of August – those roads are steep and curvy – we havne’t encountered anything quite so steep and curvy on our 10,000 miles west this September. The 2011 4 Runner we pull her with is rated at 5000 lbs tow capacity.. Well there is nothing that says you can’t keep those propane tanks inside the trailer, in transport, Also water is 8 lbs/gallon, 5 gallons = 40 lbs, you can counter balance each propane tank by putting five gallon water jugs as far aft. We will be doing that leg in August. After reading lots of info, I would rather play safe. And the Hensley Arrow hitch is wonderful, too…a vast improvement. The Mosquito campground was one of our favorites from our entire winter. Does anyone have any experience towing anything this size with the V8. It was, for the most part, a very comfortable design, but small and lacking quality and ease of use. But if those things don’t bother you, pop-ups should be fine! Is it just me. i feel the Runner should be held to about 20′ trailer and 5000# max for towing, I tow a 255rs Shasta with my 04 4runner with a v6 ,My guess is it weighs in at around 6000lbs and that truck amazed me pulled no problems and was stable as can be I usually use a 2000 ford Excursion to tow with but it was in the shop so I took the old 4Runner and left it in D drive and it worked great ,these trucks are made to tow full frame and 250hp and almost 300flb of torque ,I always look back to the early 80s when my dad towed a 30ft Golden Falcon with a 77 cougar station wagon and never a problem and with 160hp v8 we made it all over Ontario. Good Luck Jane! 1st or 2nd gear the whole way. Makes no sense. We had a hitch installed some years back and the RV dealership included a Reese weight distribution setup with Stable bar and power tongue lift. 3) mountain directory for truckers, RVs and Motorhome drivers Dave, you might look at TrailManors…….they are a hard sided ‘pop-up’……with dry baths. I have a sway hitch and the brake box both as well. All agreements full and final. tow capacity and the 2016 that show 5000 lb tow capacity.I’m told by my local dealership that there is no difference in the mechanics of the 4 runners, just a difference in the way the capacities are calculated. I had a 2005 V8. We added a Fastway E-2 weight distribution hitch with 600 pound round sway bars, heavy duty rear suspension and expensive Michelin tires (David’s choice), and away we went. Outside row, nice view down the canyon, very private. Definitely will have to go used, but hopefully not too used! I would think that if you cannot lift the tongue of the trailer off the ground with minimal effort there if too much torque at that point and the center of mass would need to move aft. Jan. Our 2008 TOYO Highlander sport does have the optional towing package (factory installed) and is rated to two max load of 5,000 lbs. Lights LED (w/Cold Weather Harness) 4 - D-Rings 3" Weld On Scissor Hoist w/Standard Pump Rapid … Browse 2 March. I saw a comment about avoiding routes with more than 17% grade. “The Dark Side of Towing a Travel Trailer With a Toyota 4 Runner”, href=”http://www.amazon.com/JR-Products-2912-Towing-Mirror/dp/B0095TC6I6/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?ie=UTF8&pi=SL75&qid=1370089832&ref_=mp_s_a_1_8&sr=8-8″ target=”_blank”>, Travel Trailers You Can Tow With A Car – Travel User, Travel Trailers Towable By Suv – Travel User. We towed the “empty” trailer feom the dealership about 120 miles without any problems. Now that we have the Tundra – the mileage isn’t much worse and the truck doesn’t work nearly as hard to tow up mountain passes. 🙂 Stephen says he’s towing with a Highlander & happy – be sure to read his input below. I wonder if the Pilot’s gear ratios are not as well suited for towing as the 4-Runner? Any other advice for us? I also agree to the, To get more results, try adjusting your search by changing your distance, or removing filters, 2008 Lance Truck Camper Long Bed Lance 915 avec F250. I want to make sure we will be able to tow it safely with our 2005 4Runner. 22′ long, 3,965 lbs dry-GVWR of 4,750. Not familiar with a Flex – I assume you’ve checked the sticker inside the drivers side door for towing and cargo numbers. These blow-out prices are based on an approved short-term finance agreement through one of Canada's chartered banks. The Dark Side of Towing a Travel Trailer with a Toyota 4 Runner, 4 Runner vs Tundra as a Travel Trailer Tow Vehicle. We drove for 8 straight hours, slept for 6 and then 9 straight to the campsite. In a prior life, I drove two Jeep Cherokee Sports and loved them before switching in 2000 to the 4 Runner (the 2006 is our 2nd 4 Runner). So, with the trailer weight + 1000lbs, it looks like we’d be right at 75% of max. Well we just pulled the Jayco 23b another 1700 Km. Grosnever Arch on the dirt Cottonwood Canyon Road. I dont recommend pulling much weight with those vehicles. So I traded for a 5.7 Sequoia. 1 226 12V/USB... Finance here for $240 Bi-Weekly All sales first come-first served. Whatever you decide, be safe!!! I had a Hensley hitch, didn’t like it. We have been towing a Lance 1985 with a 2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0L diesel for several month now. Jan. My wife and I did the Alaska trailer trip last summer, towing a Rockwood 2109S with a Jeep Grand Cherokee. When we get back from living on the sailboat, we want to test drive the 2016 Chevy Colorado (turbo-diesel) and GMC Canyon – they claim a towing capacity of 7,700 lbs, but we haven’t seen, or driven one yet. I have a trailer the same size as mine wich will make it a little tougher to tow due to the total length of the trailer. I think you made the right choice on the V6 mostly because it doesn’t require the $800-1000 timing belt change that the V8 needs. If I put in (manual) 5th it seemed sluggish and would drop back into 4th. with the 3.0L diesel. It is a V6. Good luck & ENJOY! We use Gran Aero Towing Mirrors. Eddie don’t forget to check that you need a electronic brake controller for either trailer. Carry on and leave great times in your rear view mirror! Thanks Ann! I’ve never seen any RV carry propane tanks between the axles, but like I said, we’re new at this. Hi Frank! Keep in mind, alot depends on how much weight you put in it, counting the propane tanks, batteries & weight distribution hitch, plus your personal stuff. I like both vehicles, and they will both tow what I need them for with my RV. Hopefully we can hit the road like you some day but for now, we are stuck with weekend getaways on the west coast. Prefeitura Municipal de Primavera do Leste / MT Todos os Direitos Reservados. Cheers! The drag of the tires will tend to pull the CG back onto the centerline of the truck and trailer. Coming down was not bad, 1st or 2nd gear and pulsed trailer brakes. Good luck & be safe! VAST DIFFERENCE. 4 Runner. We like that it’s big enough for boondocking (although we haven’t tried much yet, that’ll be the next trip? On my first trip from TN to IN, it was 460 miles roundtrip while driving up and down several grades of 6% or less for about 50 miles total. We’ve not had any experience with any other types of sway bars. Does that make sense? Jan. 4runner “disengage” the overdrive when you shift down to 4th. These items are not included in the dry weight of the trailer. This is heavier and longer than the Starcraft at GVWR 5,500 and 24′ long. I realize there is only a certain model of the Highlander that can actually tow 5,000 and the rest can’t. When you can lift your trailer with a finger then you have packed your load correctly and you will get a much smoother ride, it will reduce stress on hitch hence your 4runner. I have a 2005, V8 with the tow package and only 90,000 mi. CNN RSS (Really Simple Syndication) is an XML-based format for sharing and distributing Web content, such as news headlines. A Levy of 5.25% will be applied if the purchaser chooses to pay outright. I am thinking about doing this to make my 4runner ride better. Cheers! The slideout allows for a facing bench dinette that easily accommodate 4 peop... 8' 11'' Lance camper with no slideout.2019 Lance Truck Campers 850Our smallest long bed truck camper isn't short on comfort.Our smallest long bed truck camper isn't short on comfort. Still, I don’t want to stress my wonderful Highlander. then you know load is centered correctly. The 4 Runner did fine, but it was definitely extended. It is more open and feels roomyer than the Jayco It’s just us and the poodle so I can’t see going over 900 lbs. I have a 2006 4Runner and want to buy a camper, but am not ready to purchase a bigger truck at this time. that is also with the e2 weight distribution hitch, which really creates a smooth towing experience. You wont get a better combination for off road driving and towing capability but the Jeep does use an Italian made diesel and those have yet to be proven on our shores. I appreciate any advice you can give. My mistake thinking the package I purchased contained only one mirrors. Thanks again for the reply, and happy travels! A friend of mine has the Tundra and pulls a much larger trailer with that. I have an 05 SR5 V6 2WD with 98K. Thank you- that is a pretty neat camper that I have never seen before. Even a little mass can make a huge difference because of the distance from the center of axle. So good to read your post! Find cheap flights in seconds, explore destinations on a map, and sign up for fare alerts on Google Flights. secretly I’ve been thinking all along that when the time comes, we’ll just “upgrade” to the 8 cylinder 4 Runner … but I checked and you’re right, no 8 cylinder version for 2015. It’s a great Trailer and with the new designed aerodynamic front and relocated should be a great addition to our explorations. Also, be sure to read the sticker inside the 4 Runner’s drivers door which will tell you the cargo your 4 Runner can carry. The postings here have convinced me to stay with a Taylor Coach and purchase his largest unit. When we had to replace the 4 Runner, we opted to go with a Tundra for the added towing capacity and heavier vehicle. Thanks! All rights reserved. Enjoy!! The camera swinging on its strap might upset your balance and there's a LONG cliff below? Hi Brenda! Because of heavy rains and flooded roadways we delayed hauling our new 2017 Coleman Lantern TT (3,088 dry weight) until this week. I have a 2005 Toyota 4Runner SE, 4.0L V6 (VVTi)and it did really well for the Dry weight of the trailer being 4,800#’s with 4 adults and an English Mastiff in the Cargo area…:) We were carrying about 1,300 additional #’s fully loaded with a total weight of around 6,100#’s!!! Weight distributing hitches need to be frame rail mounted on 4runners to work safely and effectively, and when so equipped a V6 4runner should do just fine to 6400lbs. I will keep you posted! Keep in mind a 20# tank full of propane weighs approx 37 lbs full (we have 2). The road up from the canyon was a bit steep but it was not a problem for us or any of the other RVrs in the several campgrounds. Don’t know where you’re planning to stop, but we enjoyed Palo Duro State Park just south of Amarillo. Added a portable 120watt solar panel to charge the battery when boondocking. Thanks for the info – very helpful. Happy to hear positive comments on towing with a 4runner. Took it from Southern Oregon to Victoria B.C. Depending on your camping style, some of the RPods looked really nice when we were looking, just not enough storage for longer term camping. Am I going to be OK? Difficult, but exciting stuff. and I’ve added a tranny cooler and rear suspension air bags. Hi Rebecca! My one complaint about this set up is that the Toyota does not carry enough fuel. Torque is just weight (force, in pounds) times distance (in ft) to arrive at lb-ft of torque. Jan, try equalizer, solid bar, no chains. With the 4 Runner (and the 6 cyl Jeep Grand Cherokee, I suspect) we always knew the trailer was behind us. When requesting a user account, please include a comment about the names that you are interested in. That’s great info, as we currently have a ’17 Tacoma TRD Sport w/factory tow package. The Lance 1685 has everything we want in a trailer. All in-stock... Finance here for $220 Bi-Weekly All sales first come-first served. Having said that, err on the side of caution. However, they are going after the tire manufacturer as they feel the tire was defective. I REALLY appreciate this post. It was very comfortable from day 1. Thank you for your response. I was glad to read your blog. Keep in mind a 20# tank full of propane weighs approx 37 lbs full (we have 2). If I keep the trailer length at 20 ft. max and the loaded weight at around 3,700 lbs. The 4 Runner towed our 3800 lb dry weight Lance 1685 just fine, but we’re glad we switched to the Tundra when it was time to replace the 4 Runner. This page was created to provide researchers with a means of finding individual names in a family database. P.S. We were gone 27 days. I’d be switching from a car, so a 4Runner might be a shock, uncomfortable and noisy, but maybe it’s not too bad? Great vehicle and really like it! My 2005 4Runner 4WD V8 was mfgr-rated at the time for 7000#. I’m happy to see that you have had many wonderful travels with your 1685. BTW, I lived in the keys for about 10 years. The back end of that trailer crossed well into the passing lane and left rear corner actually reached the left shoulder. BTW, we ended up trading our 4 Runner in on a Tundra when it was time (we upgrade vehicles every 10 years). On the other hand, we discovered we love dirt road driving – NOT pulling the trailer, just exploring – Cottonwood Canyon Road, House Rock Road, Hole in the Rock Road … the list goes on, but the reality is the 4 Runner is well suited to dirt roading – good ground clearance and the ability to negotiate ruts/washboarded dirt roads.  We chose good weather, wouldn’t want to try it in wet weather, but for what we did it was a wonderful way to reach trailheads and arches we couldn’t have seen otherwise.  The Wave and Grosnever Arch come to mind. ), but not sure we’ll switch. Maybe I’ll invent one if I don’t see it on the market. We always used 4th gear in the 4 Runner – 5th gear seemed to rev up and down so much that it was bothersome. A/C - Coleman 13.5 Wall Control Fruita Campground, Capitol Reef Nat’l Park. Yes, our 4 Runner was a 4X4 -with factory equipped tow package (including extra transmission cooler) and we added the weight distribution hitch, sway bars and external mirrors. A blowout with less than 190 miles and $3,000 worth of damage later, we had to pay out of pocket for 3 new tires and one wheel. With the tongue resting on the beam one-third of the distance between the pivot and the scale, a 140-pound reading means that the total tongue weight is 420 pounds, just about right for a 4000-pound trailer. I hope all is working out well for you. People all across the US told us we were out to lunch, that towing with our 4 Runner wasn’t safe, so forth & so on. I’m looking forward to getting our trailer out of storage & figuring out what our plan is for this summer. The maximum payload according to the sticker is 1575lbs. We’ve never seen one, so I can’t comment, but it’s lighter than the 1675. We love ours! Our experience is when we headed west (as opposed to East of the Mississippi), our 6 cyl 4 Runner labored more than previously. Jan. P.S. I can go down to the 1575 but I don’t like the fact that there is no sink in the bathroom. I can’t convert the dining seats to a bed, my body wouldn’t handle it. I am guessing we were pulling around 4900 lbs. Is there anything I should be cautious of? 🙂 THANKS! I figure if that was the only serious deviation from plan to error on the part of safety in the 4 months we’d been traveling with the trailer, life was all good.  It’s all about attitude, no “got to go no matter what” macho attitudes in our camp.   🙂. Our Jayco 23 B is just 3950 lbs dry. We have a 2015 highlander we tow our Lance with. Be sure and look up the tire specs! Thank you. I came across this blog as I am seriously looking at a Lance 1685 to tow behind a Current model V6 Jeep Grand Cherokee. Having said that, we didn’t really have issues towing in wind, but we only had wind a couple of days over 3 months. We have one battery and no water except the six gallons in the water heater. Then we came up 101 on the coast and ended up in Northern California. In 2006 the factory tow package came with the transmission cooler, no idea about the new ones. Are those your thoughts as well? Sold it after. I am towing a Lance 1575 with a 2013 4Runner. We definitely have Alberta & the Canadian Rockies on our camping “bucket” list! Your suspension may be fine, ours wasn’t, hence the reason we had it beefed up. 28′ is too big for a 4 Runner, in our opinion. Any help appreciated! Oh, and pick your weather, no use trying to negotiate a mountain pass in a blizzard – one day we opted to leave a day earlier than planned and took a somewhat longer route to avoid the mountain twisty road, blizzard and winds.
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